2021 Nangeroni Meeting on John the Baptist (online)
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John the Baptist: History & Reception
Chairs: Gabriele Boccaccini & Michael Daise
Date: 11-14 January, 2021
Schedule [New York time]
- 6:00am to 1:45pm -- Los Angeles time
- 9:00am to 4:45pm -- New York time
- 2:00pm to 9:45 -- London time
- 3:00pm to 10:45pm -- Europe time
- 4:00pm to 11:45pm -- Jerusalem time
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DAY 1 (Monday Jan 11, 2021)
9:00am - Welcome (Gabriele Boccaccini & Michael Daise)
9:15am - 9:45am - Introduction
9:45am-11:45am
Freedman Panel, organized by the Dept of Middle East Studies of the University of Michigan: Who is my John the Baptist? Some Contemporary Scholarly Portraits (15 min each)====
- Joel Marcus, Joan Taylor, Edmondo Lupieri, Gabriele Boccaccini, Albert Baumgarten, Rivka Nir
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(1) 12:30pm-2:15pm
John the Baptist within Second Temple Judaism
Who was John the Baptist according to Josephus? Is there any relationship between John's baptism and the Baptism of Adam in the traditions related to the Life of Adam and Eve? Can we notice any relationship between John's preaching and the latest phase of the Enochic literature reflected in the Book of Parables?
- Steve Mason, Daniele Minisini, Kelley Coblentz Bautch, Johannes Tromp
- With Lorenzo DiTommaso, Claude Cohen-Matlofsky, Kenneth Atkinson, Archie Wright
Steve Mason : John the Drencher (aka Baptist), a Judaean Vir Bonus in Josephus, AJ 18.116–119
- Exegetical tradition inclines us to treat every word by an ancient Jewish author as a theological utterance, and to explain it by reference to other Jewish literature. But understanding Josephus’ portrait of John means first considering what he wished to convey to his audiences in Flavian Rome. This requires attention to the context in Antiquities and the resources shared by author and audience. For Josephus, John’s fame as a drencher is incidental to his role as the good man and effective orator who risks all for justice, a foil for the grasping Antipas. Implications for reconstructing the historical John follow.
Johannes Tromp, Baptism, but no John in the literature on Adam and Eve
- In the earliest versions of the Life of Adam and Eve, no uncontested references to baptism occur. In later developments of the story, there are somewhat more convincing references to baptism, but no connection is made with John the Baptist. This seems to be true of apocryphal literature in general, even including New Testament apocrypha.
Daniele Minisini : Was John the Baptist an apocalyptic preacher? Some Enochic remarks
- If it is true that the preaching of John the Baptist was characterized by strongly apocalyptic features such as the idea of an impending end and the advent of an eschatological judgment, it remains to be understood where to place him among the various Jewish apocalyptic tendencies of the Second Temple period. My paper will try to link John's preaching with the last phase of the Enochic literature.
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(2) 3:00pm - 4:45pm
John the Baptist in Christian Tradition
How was the memory of John reshaped by the various Christian groups and authors who in various ways valued his figure for their own ‘agendas’? How is his mission and relationship with Jesus articulated in Christian "orthodox" sources?
- Michael Daise, Rafael Rodriguez, Joan Taylor, Francesco Pieri
Michael Daise: Isaiah 40:3 and John the Baptist
- Isaiah 40:3 has been broached from two lines of inquiry: as an identity marker for John the Baptist; and as an instance of early Jewish and Christian hermeneutics. The two approaches have not entirely been put in dialogue with each other; and my comments aim to make a start on this by bringing observations from the latter to bear on John's profile in the gospels.
Rafael Rodríguez: Finding John and Jesus in Tradition
- Historians have wrestled with the varying portrayals of John in the Gospels and Josephus’s Antiquities of the Jews. Was John the forerunner to Israel’s messiah, Jesus, or was he the more popular and influential figure, with Jesus being but one of his disciples? My paper sets the question(s) of John’s and Jesus’s reputations within the frame of recent advances in the study of tradition, particularly as that term intersects with notions of social and/or collective memory.
Francesco Pieri : John the Baptist in Origen's exegesis
- Origen's interpretation concerning John's ministry and martyrdom should be recognized – as is often the case – as a major source of inspiration for most of the subsequent patristic exegesis. His announcement and baptism signify the actual role of Christian prophecy in preparing a way for the inner coming of the Logos. For the Church hiss dramatical death foretells the risk of losing its prophetic vigour due to an excessive search for agreement with worldly power.
Joan E. Taylor : Dimensions of John the Baptist in Early Christian Art
- While historians focus on John the Baptist in literature, in order to probe what we can know about the actual John and how he is represented in our diverse texts, we may also have a pre-existing image of what John looked like. Often our image is composite: partly derived from our reading of Mark 1:6//Matt. 3:4, partly from our familiarity with centuries of Christian art and partly from our viewing of contemporary films. But how was John imagined in the earliest portrayals? Fortunately, we have ancient images of how John was visualised. One of the key aspects of such visualisations is multivalence: a widespread feature in early Christian art. John is shown as baptizing Jesus, in line with early Christian texts, but he is also representative of the actions of all Christian ‘baptists’ in the initiation ceremonies of the churches. Other additional meanings were also woven into the iconography, drawn from existing tropes of Graeco-Roman art, pointing to John’s deep linkage with both the divine and the natural worlds, so that John almost becomes a prophet of the Stoic God-as-Nature. Considering how the historical, meaningful and prototypical weave together in such art, we are prompted also to reflect again on John the Baptist’s reception in literature.
Day 2 (Tuesday Jan 12, 2021)
9:00am - Welcome -- 9:15am-10:00am - Recap session
(3) 10:00am-11:45am
John in Judeo-Christianity, Gnosticism, Mandeanism, and Islam
Do the sources testify to the existence of a messianic “Baptist sect” in competition to the Jesus movement? If so, at what stage? How is his relationship with Jesus articulated in the Pseudo-Clementine Homilies and Recognitiones? What role does the figure of John the Baptist play within Mandeanism? How is John represented in Nag Hammadi's Gnostic texts? And in Islam?
- Giovanni Bazzana (Pseudo-Clementines), Alberto Camplani (Gnosticism), James McGrath (Mandeanism), Caroline Lemmens (Islam)
Giovanni Bazzana : The Greatest Among Those Born of Women": The Controversial Figure(s) of John the Baptist in the Pseudo-Clementine novel
- Despite its very limited number of appearances in the relatively vast Pseudo-Clementine tradition, the character of John the Baptist has attracted significant scholarly attention for the unique traits displayed in this early Christian novel. Indeed, John is the object of a uniquely negative representation in some of the materials included in the Pseudo-Clementines and this state of affairs has moved scholars to plumb the novel in order to discover what it can teach us about the "historical John". This intervention will take a different path by looking at the historical context in which the Pseudo-Clementine sources or the two extant versions of the novel depicted and debated the figure of "the greatest among those born of women". This analysis will show how "John" maintained a crucial role as a signpost for controversies regarding group identity formation, the religious significance of water purification, and gender discourses.
Alberto Camplani : John the Baptist at the intersection of contrasting salvific economies: a demon, a prophet, or a spiritual being? The different portraits of John in Gnostic texts and Marcion’s Euangelion
- Gnostic speculations on the figure of John either as a representative of the old Demiurgic economy (Old Testament) or as a symbol of the preparation to the divine plans of the Saviour are compared with his marginalization in the Marcionite Evanghelion. This variety of attitudes can be justified on the basis of profound differences in theological and anthropological conceptions among a number of early Christian currents.
James McGrath : Can Mandaean sources be useful in the study of the historical John the Baptist?
- It has become commonplace to dismiss or simply ignore Mandaean sources in New Testament studies in general, and even in connection with John the Baptist, when reference to them would seem particularly germane. Even scholars who accept the implausibility of the suggestion (made by Dodd and others) that the Baptist was introduced into Mandaeism in the era of Islam, tend to view Mandaean sources as nevertheless too late to be genuinely useful (just as most New Testament scholars set aside the Nag Hammadi texts as of interest in connection with the reception of Jesus and the New Testament Gospels, but not for the historical interpretation of them in their original context). In this conference paper I will explore further and in greater detail the analogy between Jesus and the Nag Hammadi sources on the one hand, and John the Baptist and Mandaean sources on the other. My paper will argue that historians would find the Nag Hammadi sources useful, and would use them cautiously and critically but nonetheless extensively, if we lacked the New Testament Gospels, and thus found ourselves in a similar situation with respect to Jesus to that we find ourselves in when it comes to John the Baptist. After exploring the methodological questions through this thought experiment, several concrete examples will be presented of material in Mandaean sources that should be judged historically valuable for those interested in John the Baptist as a historical figure.
Caroline Lemmens : John the Baptist in the Islam
- The figure John the Baptist emerges with the name Yaḥyā in the Qur'ān in the beginning of the 7th century. The Quran interprets John as an important prophet in his own right as well as an example for how believers should view Jesus. In all four places in the Quran where John is mentioned, Jesus is mentioned as well, both being prophets.'
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(4) 12:30pm - 2:15pm
John the Baptist, the Temple, and the Priesthood
Was John a priest? What was his attitude towards the priesthood? Was his teaching or his baptism in opposition to the Temple? What was the attitude of the Temple and the Priesthood towards the preaching of John?
- Paul Anderson, Eric Noffke, Ian Werrett, Edmondo Lupieri
Paul Anderson : John, Jesus, and the Transformation of Judaism
- The ministries of John the Baptist and Jesus are presented as linked together in all four Gospels, but in Johannine perspective, their ministries overlapped, and the temple incident is linked to the prophetic witness of John. In both cases, the ministries of John and Jesus can be seen as challenging limitations ritual purification in the name of historic Jewish values and the transformation of Judaism.
Erik Noffke : John and John, two marginalized Jewish priests?
- John the Baptist plays a key role in the fourth gospel's narrative and theological plan. According to at least part of the scholarship, the fourth gospel is believed to be the work of a Jewish priest who became a follower of Jesus. If this approach is correct, can the evangelist's priestly theology have affected his understanding of the Baptizer? And, above all, can this approach help us in finding out whether John the baptizer was a priest himself?
Ian Werrett : John son of Zechariah and Elizabeth: Priestly Patrimony, Lukan Lore, or Baptist Gospel?
- Of the canonical Gospels, Luke is the only book to identify John the Baptist as having originated from priestly stock (Luke 1:5). This does not prove that John was the descendant of priests, however. Rather, it indicates that the author felt it necessary to present him as such. In this presentation, I will focus on the depiction of John in the Gospel of Luke in hopes of stimulating a discussion on the author’s rationale for presenting the Baptist as having priestly credentials.
Edmondo Lupieri : Grasshoppers, wild honey, and camel’s hair again and again: is there any trace of qumranic/sadocitic/priestly halakhah in John the Baptist?
- If the data regarding food and dress of John the Baptist were not an “archaeological curiosity” and came to Mark from a reliable and ancient pre-Synoptic tradition, they must have been saved for some reason. If, as many of us think, the original goal was to communicate something of John’s halakhah, then fresh reflections may help us to better situate him in the cultural vivacity and diversity of Second Temple Judaism.
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(5) 3:00pm - 4:45pm
John the Baptist, Qumran, and the Essenes
Was John an Essene? Was he at Qumran? Which are the major similarities and differences between John and the Dead Sea Scrolls? How is John’s relationship to Essenism to be revised in light of the latest studies on the Essenes, the Scrolls and Qumran?
- Joel Marcus, Albert Baumgarten, Corrado Martone, Cecilia Wassen
- With Claude Cohen-Matlofsky, Kenneth Atkinson, Archie Wright
Joel Marcus: "John the Baptist and Qumran"
- In John the Baptist in History and Theology i argued that John started out as a member of the Qumran community, but subsequently left it to strike out on his own. In my remarks I will respond to challenges to this thesis having to do with the nature of the Qumran community and the similarities and differences between John and the Qumran group.
Corrado Martone: John the Baptist in the Light of Qumran Literature: Some Considerations
- The theme of the relationship between Qumran literature and Christian origins has long been a theme of great interest and remains so today. In this paper I will analyze and evaluate the possible analogies and differences between what we know about John the Baptist and his activities and what we know about the community of Qumran. To be tenable, the hypothesis of a relationship between John the Baptist and the community of Qumran should offer analogies between the two parties that are of greater weight than any differences: we will show how the alleged analogies that have been put forward over the years, far from being stronger than the undeniable differences, can hardly be sustained as analogies.
Albert Baungarten: John’s Food and his Sectarian Past
- John’s food was taken direct from nature. His refusal to eat bread and drink wine (like any normal person!) led people to charge that he had a demon, i.e. was mad (Luke 7:33). Comparison with the diet of expelled Essenes in Josephus and that of Josephus’ former master Bannus, seen in light of the analysis of food patterns suggested by Levi-Strauss and Louis Dumont, suggests that John had a sectarian (Essene or Qumran type?) past, in which his access to food prepared by ordinary Jews was prohibited and was limited to food under the auspices of the group. When that was not available, the only permitted food was that taken directly from nature.
Cecilia Wassen : John the Baptist and the Qumran Movement: How Do We Compare the Sources?
- By comparing the sources on John the Baptist with certain texts from the Dead Sea Scrolls, scholars commonly investigate whether or not John was a member of the Qumran movement. I will engage with Joel Marcus’s recent volume, John the Baptist in History and Theology, and reflect on some of the problems involved in such a comparison. Thereby I will examine the focus on the site of Qumran and the prominence of 1QS, particularly when it comes to purity issues.
DAY 3 (Wednesday, Jan 13, 2021)
9:00 Welcome -- 9:15am - 10:00am - Recap session
(6) 10:00am-11:45am
John's Baptism, Messianism, and the Forgiveness of Sins
What was the relations between John's baptism and Second Temple ritual baths? For whom was John’s baptism devised: for all and everyone (i.e. all Israel) or specifically for the sinners? What is the precise relationship between John’s immersion, the repentance of those who undertook it, and the forgiveness of sins? Which description of his baptism deserves more credit: Josephus’ or Mark’s? Was John’s baptism an ‘eschatological sacrament’ mediating forgiveness and effecting atonement and salvation? Did it intended to impart the Holy Spirit?
- Yonatan Adler (ritual baths), Ithamar Gruenwald, Jonathan Lawrence, Gabriele Boccaccini
Yonatan Adler, Ancient Judean ritual immersion practices
- One way to examine John's baptism is through the prism of contemporary Judean ritual immersion practices. These practices are best studied by investigating not only the textual evidence, but also the extensive archaeological evidence available in the form of stepped pools. The quantity and extremely widespread distribution of these pools throughout Judean settlement zones suggest that purificatory immersion was practiced regularly—perhaps daily—by a large segment of the Judean population.
Jonathan Lawrence, Ritual Washing - Texts and Structures in the Second Temple Period
- My presentation will outline the range of uses of washing in the Hebrew Bible and Second Temple Literature. These uses ranged from various ritual situations, metaphorical uses of the idea of washing, and washing as initiation. Some Christian writers have suggested from early times up to our own time that Jesus and early Christians were creating a new idea of washing as a rejection or transformation of Jewish ritual washing. However, the wide range of Second Temple period uses suggests that it may have been more of a process of adapting pre-existing concepts and diverging from Judaism instead of creating something new. I will also describe archaeological evidence for the development of miqva'ot, ritual baths, in the Second Temple and later periods.
Ithamar Gruenwald
- My presentation will focus on the textual evidence preserved in the Synoptic Gospels. It indicates that no agreement existed between the synoptic texts with regard to the question, whether John physically baptized Jesus, or that Jesus baptized himself. This issue, primarily a textual one, has ritual and other consequences. As it comes up right at the beginning of the Jesus-story, it reflects historical, ritual and theological divergence of opinions, or traditions, with regard to the role which John the Baptist played, vis a vis that of Jesus, in the beginnings of the new religion.
Gabriele Boccaccini, From the ritual baths of Second Temple Judaism to the Christian Baptism, passing through John the Baptist
- My presentation will examine the transformation of a ritual common to Second Temple Judaism into an eschatological ritual for the forgiveness of sins. It will focus in particular on the influence of the late apocalyptic Judaism (Parables of Enoch) in making the end of times not only of a time of Judgment but also a time of repentance for sinners.
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(7) 12:30pm-2:15pm
John and the Law: Purity, and Other Halakhic Matters
What was John’s stance on the much debated question of purity in light of the other halakhic views known to us? How did he articulate the relationship between ritual/bodily (im)purity and moral/inner (im)purity? Did he considered sinners to be ritually unclean (and defiling?) as long as they remained unrepentant and unrighteous? Did he somehow conflate the two, so that immersing in water was seen as cleansing not only the body from ordinary levitical uncleanness – or perhaps some special kind of sin-generated impurity – but also the heart from sin? How are Mark’s reports on John eating locusts and wild honey and wearing a garment of camel’s hair to be understood from a legal point of view? Do they testify to a peculiar halakhah and a claim of expertise on subtle legal questions on John’s part? Was John celibate? If so, was this related to purity concerns?
- Benjamin Snyder, Lawrence Schiffman, Thomas Kazen, Vered Noam, Jonathan Klawans
Bnjamin Snyder : John’s Immersion: In Ritual Context and Comparative Perspective
- Interpreters have long sought to identify the origin of John’s immersion. Commonplace among these theories are the amassing of parallels and the emphasizing of differences in an effort to root John’s practice in a sect, such as the Qumran community (most recently argued by Joel Marcus), or a similar ritual practice, such as proselyte baptism, mystery religions, or priestly initiation. I first propose that the critical use of comparative method offers a necessary corrective to our attempts to understand John and his immersion. Then, drawing on insights from ritual studies, I argue that John’s immersion does not derive from from any antecedent but may be understood as the application of ritual purification in its “basic” sense and without a need to appeal to conflation.
Lawrence Schiffman: John the Baptist and the Dead Sea Scrolls
- It has been suggested that John the Baptist reflects in some ways the Qumran approach to ritual purity. This claim is based primarily on the role of immersion as a means of initiation in the Qumran Scrolls. We will explore this connection, taking the view that it is greatly exaggerated.
Thomas Kazen : John’s immersions: ritual purifications, but from what?
- Immersion is an unmistakable purification ritual, but from what would John’s immersions purify, that could not be achieved by an ordinary miqveh? Considering the relevant texts from the Synoptics, Josephus, and 1QS on immersion, purity, sin, and forgiveness, I will attempt to outline the options and disentangle them, first with the help of metaphor theory, especially conceptual blending, and secondly by trying out Lawson & McCauley’s Theory of Ritual Form. Is anything indicated by the fact that John’s immersions were seen to have had high impact and were associated with behavioural change?
Vered Noam : John and the "morning immersers"
- One of the main disputes regarding the image of John the Baptist revolves around the significance of his baptism. Was it directed at repentance and forgiveness of sins, or associated with Jewish ritual purity? Was it a one-time or a recurrent action? Marginal, later evidence connecting John to a stringent Jewish faction which advocated daily immersion has possible implications for this issue. Examination of rabbinic references to this sect may shed light, if not on the historical figure, at least on the way John was remembered in subsequent generations by those who were not among his adherents.
Jonathan Klawans : John’s Baptism: An Innovative Rite of Atonement
- While uncertainty will always remain, we begin with the observation that we do better to follow the synoptics over Josephus on John. Josephus has his own reasons for viewing John’s baptism as more symbolic than effective, as more evocative than innovative. The Gospels have it better: John’s practice was above all a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins—an innovative rite of atonement. In this respect, the rite was distinctive enough to be associated primarily with John’s memory for generations. Josephus’s testimony confirms, however, that water rites also inevitably relate to purity, and we will continue to do well to attend to the purificatory backgrounds and implications (both ritual and moral) of John’s distinctive and innovative practice.
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(8) 3:00pm - 4:45pm
John and Politics
How did John react to the social, economic, and political troubles of his time? Did John have a social program? What was his attitude towards the wealthy? What was his attitude to Roman imperialism, the Jerusalem aristocracy and the Herodian house? Did John’s message have clear political implications, perhaps even revolutionary? What weight should be given to his political death in trying to reconstruct John as a truly historical person of his time rather than in more or less theological terms? What was his attitude toward Gentiles?
- Lester Grabbe, Nathan Shedd, Erin Roberts, Shayna Sheinfeld
- With Lorenzo DiTommaso, Gregory Doudna
Lester Grabbe : Herod Antipas
- An introduction to the political and social context of John the Baptist, focusing on Herod Antipas.
Nathan Shedd, Negotiating Herod Antipas’ Masculine Rule
- The characterization of Herod Antipas in Mark 6:14–29 has been variously construed. For some scholars, Mark all but exonerates the “king” while placing the blame for John’s death on the Herodian women in particular. For others, he holds the primary blame. In this essay, I will reconfigure the characterization of Antipas in Mark’s portrayal of John’s beheading by reading John’s death in light of ancient discourses of beheading.
Shayna Sheinfeld, Revisiting John the Baptist within First-Century Judaea
- That John the Baptist was a Jew who was executed under the Roman tetrarch of Galilee Herod Antipas is undisputed. These preliminary remarks will revisit the reasons for John’s execution and his place among other first century Jewish prophetic figure
Day 4 (Thursday, Jan 14, 2021)
9:00 -- Welcome -- 9:15am - 10:00am -- Recap session
(9) 10:00am-11:45am
The Gospels and John the Baptist
How was the memory of John reshaped in each gospel? Can we trace a linear line of development, from Mark, Matthew, Luke to John? or did the early Christian tradition follow more complex lines of development?
- Harold Attridge (Gospel of Mark), Tucker Ferda (Gospel of Matthew), Clare Rothschild (Gospel of Luke-Acts), Catrin Williams (Gospel of John)
- With Benjamin Reynolds, Alicia D. Myers, Brian Dennert
Harold Attridge : Mark's Data on John the Baptist
- The paper reviews three passages in Mark referring to John the Baptist. The gospel's initial episode (Mark 1:1-11) recounts John's preaching and baptizing activity, culminating in the baptism of Jesus. The second (Mark 6:14-29) reports Herod Antipas's identification of Jesus with John redivivus and tells of the Baptist's end. The last (Mark 8:27-30) appears in a response by Jesus' disciples to a question about popular opinion. These reports involve historical memory of the Baptist's activity and interpretation by followers of Jesus about John's messianic hopes and his relationship to Jesus.
Tucker Ferda : John the Baptist in the Gospel of Matthew
- This paper considers how Matthew has reshaped Mark's portrait of John the Baptist, and combined Mark with additional material, to reconfigure the character of John in light of Matthew's overall narrative aims. After briefly reviewing John's role in the gospel as a whole, the paper looks in detail at the initial presentation of John's preaching and baptizing activity (3:1-17) and Jesus' teaching about John in the so-called "Baptist block" (11:2-30). It is argued that Matthew has at once expanded the role of John vis a vis Mark's Gospel and given the him a more prominent role while also subordinating John to Jesus. John becomes an oracular prophet, remade in the image of Jesus himself, who is more intimately connected to the Scriptures of Israel.
Clare K. Rothschild: John the Baptist in Luke and Acts
- This paper presents John the Baptist in the Gospel of Luke, highlighting and interpreting the differences of his portrait, such as his diet and clothing (Mark 1:6 || Matt 3:4), from the Gospels of Mark and Matthew. It also addresses Christian perpetuation of John’s memory in Acts (e.g., 1:22) in particular Acts 19:2-7 in which his baptism is characterized by Paul’s followers as devoid of the holy spirit. All reports contribute to a Lukan revisionist historical program in which John the Baptist and Paul, somewhat remarkably, represent different ends of a single continuum of Christian origins.
Catrin H. Williams, The ‘In-Between’ Witness: John the Baptist in the Gospel of John
- It is widely recognized that all references to, and episodes involving, John the Baptist in the Fourth Gospel are bound together by his identity and function as a key witness to Jesus. This brief paper will examine the striking – and also varied – ways in which the Johannine narrative depicts the Baptist and his testimony, as well as offering some comments on what this presentation can disclose about the fourth evangelist’s shaping of earlier traditions about John the Baptist.
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(10) 12:30pm-2:15pm
John and the Historical Jesus
What was the relationship between John and Jesus? Was Jesus one of his disciples or did he simply approve John’s work ‘from outside’? Did Jesus subsequently break with John or in any case left John’s vision and concerns behind him in favor of a very different kind of message and activity? Or is Jesus’ ministry rather to be seen as a programmatic and consistent continuation of John’s work? What are the main aspects of continuity and discontinuity? How much of John’s teaching was taken up by Jesus? Was the Lord’s Prayer originally taught by John? Did Jesus baptize at first? If so, did he ever stop? Should Jesus’ purificatory healings of lepers and people possessed by ‘unclean spirits’ be seen as a departure from or rather an extension of John’s (and Jesus’) interest in purifying repentant sinners through immersion?
- Federico Adinolfi, Sara Parks, Darrell Bock, Fernando Bermejo Rubio
- With Benjamin Reynolds, Tamas Visi
Federico Adinolfi : Roles or Goals? Rethinking the Relationship between Jesus and John
- The relationship between Jesus and John has been variously conceived in terms of continuity, discontinuity, break-up and, ultimately, rivalry. A good deal of scholarship has seen the key to understand their relationship in the question of whether (and how) Jesus fulfilled the role of John’s Coming One (in the eyes of both). Finding this approach too idealistic (as well as too closely dependent on the questionable historicity of Q 7:18-23), this conversation wishes to suggest another path: looking at what John and Jesus did, and what they tried to achieve
Sara Parks : John the Baptist's Murder and the Vengeful Logia of Jesus
- The so-called apocalyptic stratum of Jesus' sayings has long been explained by a Sitz im Leben of persecution in the Galilean Jesus movement. Thinking with trauma theory, I argue that this hypothesis is unnecessary. Instead, we need look no further for an explanation of Jesus’ vengeful sayings than the traumatic murder of his mentor.
Darrell Bock : John the Baptist and Jesus: What We Apparently Know and How That Matters
- This will discuss Historical Jesus issues tied to John the Baptist about what we can be confident about and how that matters in discussing Jesus. In particular the apocalyptic dimension to John and Jesus will be discussed as to similarities and differences and what that means for Jesus studies.
Fernando Bermejo Rubio : John the Baptist and Jesus of Nazareth, Two Rivals?: The Never Ending Story
- In the wake of several articles of mine and other scholars’ on the relationship between Jesus and John, I will make some historical and historiographical remarks concerning this issue. I will enumerate the phenomenological parallels between these Palestinian preachers, then I will survey the alleged differences between them, and in this light I will critically examine the widespread claim that there was a kind of “rivalry” or even a “break” between the two figures.
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(-) 3:00pm - 4:45pm
Wrap-up session
A final panel of specialists discussing the results of the conference.
Confirmed Participants
- Gabriele Boccaccini, University of Michigan, USA (Enoch Seminar)
- Michael Daise, College of William & Mary, USA (JSHJ)
- Federico Adinolfi, Facoltà teologica dell'Italia Settentrionale, Italy
- Yonatan Adler, Ariel University, Israel <yonatan.adler@yale.edu>
- Paul N. Anderson, George Fox University, USA
- Kenneth Atkinson, University of Northern Iowa, USA
- Harold Attridge, Yale University, USA
- Albert Baumgarten, Bar-Ilan University, Israel
- Kelley Coblentz Bautch, St Edwards University, USA
- Claude Cohen-Matlofsky, EPHE Paris, France
- Giovanni Bazzana, Harvard University, USA
- Darrell Bock, Dallas Theological Seminary, USA
- Alberto Camplani, University of Rome La Sapienza, Italy
- Lorenzo DiTommaso, Concordia University Montreal, Canada
- Gregory Doudna, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
- Tucker S. Ferda, Pittsburgh Theological Seminary <tferda@pts.edu>
- Lester Grabbe, University of Hull, England
- Matthew Grey, Brigham Young University, USA
- Ithamar Gruenwald <ithamarg@tauex.tau.ac.il>
- Thomas Kazen, Stockholm School of Theology, Sweden
- Jonathan Klawans, Boston University, USA <jklawans@bu.edu>
- Jonathan D. Lawrence, Canisius College <lawrenc7@canisius.edu>
- Caroline Lemmens, University of Groningen, Netherlands
- Edmondo Lupieri, Loyola University Chicago, USA
- Joel Marcus, Duke Divinity School, USA
- Corrado Martone, University of Turin, Italy
- Steve Mason, University of Groningen, Netherlands
- James McGrath, USA
- Daniele Minisini, University of Rome La Sapienza, Italy
- Alicia D. Myers, Campbell University Divinity School, USA
- Rivka Nir, The Open University of Israel
- Vered Noam, Tel Aviv University, Israel
- Eric Noffke, Waldensian School of Theology, Italy
- Sara Parks, University of Nottingham, England <sara.parks@nottingham.ac.uk>
- Francesco Pieri, Italy
- Benjamin Reynolds, Canada
- Erin Roberts, University of South Carolina, USA <erinroberts@sc.edu>
- Rafael Rodriguez, Johnson University (RRodriguez@johnsonu.edu)
- Clare Rothschild Lewis University, USA <ckrothschild@gmail.com>
- Fernando Bermejo Rubio, Spain
- Shayna Sheinfeld, USA
- Lawrence Schiffman, New York University, USA
- Nathan Shedd <nlshedd@gmail.com>
- Benjamin Snyder, Asbury Theological Seminary, USA <b.j.snyder@me.com>
- Joan Taylor, King's College London, UK
- Johannes Magliano-Tromp, Leiden University, Netherlands
- Tamas Visi, Palacky University, Czechia
- Cecilia Wassen, Uppsala University, Sweden
- Ian Werrett, Saint Martin's University, USA <IWerrett@stmartin.edu>
- Catrin Williams, University of Wales Trinity Saint David
- Archie Wright, England
Bibliography
Special Issue of the Journal JSHJ (edited by Michael Daise): Articles by Albert Baumgarten, Jonathan Klawans, Cecilia Wassen, Clare Rotshschild, Erin Roberts, Robert Myles, Fedrico Adinolfi e Joan Taylor.
See John the Baptist