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Joel Marcus, | '''John the Baptist''' | ||
Date: 11-14 January, 2021 | |||
== Tentative schedule == | |||
==== DAY 1 (Monday Jan 11, 2021) ==== | |||
9:00am - Welcome -- 9:15am-9:45am - Introduction | |||
(-) 9:45-11:45 -- Who is my John the Baptist? Contemporary Scholarly Portraits. | |||
A presentation of some contemporary scholarly portraits of John the Baptist (Joel Marcus, Joan Taylor, Edmondo Lupieri, Gabriele Boccaccini, Nivka Nir ... ) | |||
(1) 12:30pm - 2:15pm -- John the Baptist, the Temple, and the Priesthood | |||
Was John a priest? What was his attitude towards the priesthood? Was his teaching or his baptism in opposition to the Temple? What was the attitude of the Temple and the Priesthood towards the preaching of John? | |||
(2) 3-4:45 -- John the Baptist, Qumran, and the Essenes | |||
Was John an Essene? Was he at Qumran? Which are the major similarities and differences between John and the Dead Sea Scrolls? How is John’s relationship to Essenism to be revised in light of the latest studies on the Essenes, the Scrolls and Qumran? | |||
==== Day 2 (Tuesday Jan 12, 2021) ==== | |||
9:00am - Welcome -- 9:15am-9:45am - Recap session | |||
(3) 10-11:45 -- John the Baptist and Jewish Apocalypticism (Enoch literature) | |||
Can John's preaching be interpreted in the light of Second Temple Jewish Apocalypticism? What is the relationship between John's preaching and the latest phase of the Enochic literature reflected in the Book of Parables? Can we notice any evidence of the influence of Enochic or Apocalyptic theological discussions on John's worldview? Can the Apocalypticism be traced back to the historical John or is it the result of the reinterpretation that the Synoptics provide? | |||
(4) 12:30pm-2:15pm -- John as a Prophet: his Eschatological and Messianic Vision | |||
How is John to be located within the various forms of Jewish prophetism and revelatory practices? Was John a “mystic”? What was John’s eschatological outlook? Was his message mostly/all about judgment or was he first and foremost a prophet of restoration? Did he talk about the kingdom of God? Who was the Coming/Stronger One he announced? (The Davidic Messiah? A superhuman Messiah, e.g. the Son of Man? YHWH?) What did John think of himself? Did he claim to be the Elijah redivivus? | |||
(5) 3-4:45 -- John and Politics | |||
How did John react to the social, economic, and political troubles of his time? Did John have a social program? What was his attitude towards the wealthy? What was his attitude to Roman imperialism, the Jerusalem aristocracy and the Herodian house? Did John’s message have clear political implications, perhaps even revolutionary? What weight should be given to his political death in trying to reconstruct John as a truly historical person of his time rather than in more or less theological terms? What was his attitude toward Gentiles? | |||
==== DAY 3 (Wednesday, Jan 13, 2021) ==== | |||
9:00 Welcome -- 9:15am-9:45am - Recap session | |||
(6) 10-11:45 -- John and the Law: Purity, and Other Halakhic Matters | |||
What was John’s stance on the much debated question of purity in light of the other halakhic views known to us? How did he articulate the relationship between ritual/bodily (im)purity and moral/inner (im)purity? Did he considered sinners to be ritually unclean (and defiling?) as long as they remained unrepentant and unrighteous? Did he somehow conflate the two, so that immersing in water was seen as cleansing not only the body from ordinary levitical uncleanness – or perhaps some special kind of sin-generated impurity – but also the heart from sin? How are Mark’s reports on John eating locusts and wild honey and wearing a garment of camel’s hair to be understood from a legal point of view? Do they testify to a peculiar halakhah and a claim of expertise on subtle legal questions on John’s part? Was John celibate? If so, was this related to purity concerns? | |||
(7) 12:30pm-2:15pm -- John's Baptism and the Forgiveness of Sins | |||
What was the relations between John's baptism and Second Temple ritual baths? For whom was John’s baptism devised: for all and everyone (i.e. all Israel) or specifically for the sinners? What is the precise relationship between John’s immersion, the repentance of those who undertook it, and the forgiveness of sins? Which description of his baptism deserves more credit: Josephus’ or Mark’s? Was John’s baptism an ‘eschatological sacrament’ mediating forgiveness and effecting atonement and salvation? Did it impart the Holy Spirit? | |||
(8) 3-4:45 -- John and the Historical Jesus | |||
What was the relationship between John and Jesus? Was Jesus one of his disciples or did he simply approve John’s work ‘from outside’? Did Jesus subsequently break with John or in any case left John’s vision and concerns behind him in favor of a very different kind of message and activity? Or is Jesus’ ministry rather to be seen as a programmatic and consistent continuation of John’s work? What are the main aspects of continuity and discontinuity? How much of John’s teaching was taken up by Jesus? Was the Lord’s Prayer originally taught by John? Did Jesus baptize at first? If so, did he ever stop? Should Jesus’ purificatory healings of lepers and people possessed by ‘unclean spirits’ be seen as a departure from or rather an extension of John’s (and Jesus’) interest in purifying repentant sinners through immersion? | |||
====Day 4 (Thursday, Jan 14, 2021)==== | |||
9:00 -- Welcome -- 9:15am - 9:45am -- Recap session | |||
(9) 10-11:45 -- The Memory and Legacy of John in Judaism, Christianity and Islam (Gospels, Acts, Josephus, Qur'an) | |||
How was the memory of John reshaped by the various groups and authors who in various ways valued his figure for their own ‘agendas’? Do the sources testify to the existence of a messianic “Baptist sect” in competition to the Jesus movement? If so, at what stage? | |||
(10) 12:30pm-2:15pm -- "John the gnostics, and the Mandeans (Pseudo-Clementine literature, Gnostic Literature, Mandaeism) | |||
What role does the figure of John the Baptist play within Mandaeism? How is John represented in Nag Hammadi's Gnostic texts? How is his relationship with Jesus articulated in the Psuedo-Clementine Homilies and Recognitiones? | |||
(-) 3-4:45 -- Wrap-up session | |||
A final panel of specialists discussing the results of the conference. | |||
==Prospective Participants== | ==Prospective Participants== | ||
* @# Gabriele Boccaccini (Enoch Seminar) | |||
* @# Michael Daise (JSHJ) | |||
* @ Joel Marcus | |||
* @# Federico Adinolfi | * @# Federico Adinolfi | ||
* @# | * @# Albert Baumgarten | ||
* @ Jonathan Klawans | |||
* @# Robert Myles | |||
* @ Erin Roberts | |||
* @ Clare Rotshschild | |||
* @# Joan Taylor | |||
* @# Cecilia Wassen | |||
* @# Edmondo Lupieri | * @# Edmondo Lupieri | ||
* @# James McGrath | * @# James McGrath | ||
* @# Daniele Minisini | * @# Daniele Minisini | ||
* @# Eric Noffke | * @# Eric Noffke | ||
* | * Knut Backhaus | ||
* | * Brian Dennert | ||
* Nivka Nir | |||
* | |||
* Jaroslav Rindoš | * Jaroslav Rindoš | ||
* | * Nathan Shedd <nlshedd@gmail.com> | ||
* Benjamin Snyder | * Benjamin Snyder | ||
* Nathan Shedd | * Robert Webb | ||
== Bibliography == | |||
Joel Marcus, ''John the Baptist in History and Theology '' (2018) | |||
Special Issue of the Journal JSHJ (edited by Michael Daise): Articles by Albert Baumgarten, Jonathan Klawans, Cecilia Wassen, Clare Rotshschild, Erin Roberts, Robert Myles, Fedrico Adinolfi e Joan Taylor. | |||
Knut Backhaus e Robert Webb e direi anche Benjamin Snyder e Nathan Shedd che hanno da poco completato delle tesi di dottorato rispettivamente su battesimo e purità rituale (https://place.asburyseminary.edu/ecommonsatsdissertations/1429/ ) e sulla decapitazione del Battista (https://research.stmarys.ac.uk/id/eprint/3503/ ) | |||
Poi non so... c'è Jaroslav Rindoš che qualche anno fa ha pubblicato un buona monografia sul Battista ed Elia in Luca: http://www.slavu.sav.sk/en/en_rindos.php | |||
Latest revision as of 05:13, 23 July 2020
John the Baptist
Date: 11-14 January, 2021
Tentative schedule
DAY 1 (Monday Jan 11, 2021)
9:00am - Welcome -- 9:15am-9:45am - Introduction
(-) 9:45-11:45 -- Who is my John the Baptist? Contemporary Scholarly Portraits.
A presentation of some contemporary scholarly portraits of John the Baptist (Joel Marcus, Joan Taylor, Edmondo Lupieri, Gabriele Boccaccini, Nivka Nir ... )
(1) 12:30pm - 2:15pm -- John the Baptist, the Temple, and the Priesthood
Was John a priest? What was his attitude towards the priesthood? Was his teaching or his baptism in opposition to the Temple? What was the attitude of the Temple and the Priesthood towards the preaching of John?
(2) 3-4:45 -- John the Baptist, Qumran, and the Essenes
Was John an Essene? Was he at Qumran? Which are the major similarities and differences between John and the Dead Sea Scrolls? How is John’s relationship to Essenism to be revised in light of the latest studies on the Essenes, the Scrolls and Qumran?
Day 2 (Tuesday Jan 12, 2021)
9:00am - Welcome -- 9:15am-9:45am - Recap session
(3) 10-11:45 -- John the Baptist and Jewish Apocalypticism (Enoch literature)
Can John's preaching be interpreted in the light of Second Temple Jewish Apocalypticism? What is the relationship between John's preaching and the latest phase of the Enochic literature reflected in the Book of Parables? Can we notice any evidence of the influence of Enochic or Apocalyptic theological discussions on John's worldview? Can the Apocalypticism be traced back to the historical John or is it the result of the reinterpretation that the Synoptics provide?
(4) 12:30pm-2:15pm -- John as a Prophet: his Eschatological and Messianic Vision
How is John to be located within the various forms of Jewish prophetism and revelatory practices? Was John a “mystic”? What was John’s eschatological outlook? Was his message mostly/all about judgment or was he first and foremost a prophet of restoration? Did he talk about the kingdom of God? Who was the Coming/Stronger One he announced? (The Davidic Messiah? A superhuman Messiah, e.g. the Son of Man? YHWH?) What did John think of himself? Did he claim to be the Elijah redivivus?
(5) 3-4:45 -- John and Politics
How did John react to the social, economic, and political troubles of his time? Did John have a social program? What was his attitude towards the wealthy? What was his attitude to Roman imperialism, the Jerusalem aristocracy and the Herodian house? Did John’s message have clear political implications, perhaps even revolutionary? What weight should be given to his political death in trying to reconstruct John as a truly historical person of his time rather than in more or less theological terms? What was his attitude toward Gentiles?
DAY 3 (Wednesday, Jan 13, 2021)
9:00 Welcome -- 9:15am-9:45am - Recap session
(6) 10-11:45 -- John and the Law: Purity, and Other Halakhic Matters
What was John’s stance on the much debated question of purity in light of the other halakhic views known to us? How did he articulate the relationship between ritual/bodily (im)purity and moral/inner (im)purity? Did he considered sinners to be ritually unclean (and defiling?) as long as they remained unrepentant and unrighteous? Did he somehow conflate the two, so that immersing in water was seen as cleansing not only the body from ordinary levitical uncleanness – or perhaps some special kind of sin-generated impurity – but also the heart from sin? How are Mark’s reports on John eating locusts and wild honey and wearing a garment of camel’s hair to be understood from a legal point of view? Do they testify to a peculiar halakhah and a claim of expertise on subtle legal questions on John’s part? Was John celibate? If so, was this related to purity concerns?
(7) 12:30pm-2:15pm -- John's Baptism and the Forgiveness of Sins
What was the relations between John's baptism and Second Temple ritual baths? For whom was John’s baptism devised: for all and everyone (i.e. all Israel) or specifically for the sinners? What is the precise relationship between John’s immersion, the repentance of those who undertook it, and the forgiveness of sins? Which description of his baptism deserves more credit: Josephus’ or Mark’s? Was John’s baptism an ‘eschatological sacrament’ mediating forgiveness and effecting atonement and salvation? Did it impart the Holy Spirit?
(8) 3-4:45 -- John and the Historical Jesus
What was the relationship between John and Jesus? Was Jesus one of his disciples or did he simply approve John’s work ‘from outside’? Did Jesus subsequently break with John or in any case left John’s vision and concerns behind him in favor of a very different kind of message and activity? Or is Jesus’ ministry rather to be seen as a programmatic and consistent continuation of John’s work? What are the main aspects of continuity and discontinuity? How much of John’s teaching was taken up by Jesus? Was the Lord’s Prayer originally taught by John? Did Jesus baptize at first? If so, did he ever stop? Should Jesus’ purificatory healings of lepers and people possessed by ‘unclean spirits’ be seen as a departure from or rather an extension of John’s (and Jesus’) interest in purifying repentant sinners through immersion?
Day 4 (Thursday, Jan 14, 2021)
9:00 -- Welcome -- 9:15am - 9:45am -- Recap session
(9) 10-11:45 -- The Memory and Legacy of John in Judaism, Christianity and Islam (Gospels, Acts, Josephus, Qur'an)
How was the memory of John reshaped by the various groups and authors who in various ways valued his figure for their own ‘agendas’? Do the sources testify to the existence of a messianic “Baptist sect” in competition to the Jesus movement? If so, at what stage?
(10) 12:30pm-2:15pm -- "John the gnostics, and the Mandeans (Pseudo-Clementine literature, Gnostic Literature, Mandaeism)
What role does the figure of John the Baptist play within Mandaeism? How is John represented in Nag Hammadi's Gnostic texts? How is his relationship with Jesus articulated in the Psuedo-Clementine Homilies and Recognitiones?
(-) 3-4:45 -- Wrap-up session
A final panel of specialists discussing the results of the conference.
Prospective Participants
- @# Gabriele Boccaccini (Enoch Seminar)
- @# Michael Daise (JSHJ)
- @ Joel Marcus
- @# Federico Adinolfi
- @# Albert Baumgarten
- @ Jonathan Klawans
- @# Robert Myles
- @ Erin Roberts
- @ Clare Rotshschild
- @# Joan Taylor
- @# Cecilia Wassen
- @# Edmondo Lupieri
- @# James McGrath
- @# Daniele Minisini
- @# Eric Noffke
- Knut Backhaus
- Brian Dennert
- Nivka Nir
- Jaroslav Rindoš
- Nathan Shedd <nlshedd@gmail.com>
- Benjamin Snyder
- Robert Webb
Bibliography
Joel Marcus, John the Baptist in History and Theology (2018)
Special Issue of the Journal JSHJ (edited by Michael Daise): Articles by Albert Baumgarten, Jonathan Klawans, Cecilia Wassen, Clare Rotshschild, Erin Roberts, Robert Myles, Fedrico Adinolfi e Joan Taylor.
Knut Backhaus e Robert Webb e direi anche Benjamin Snyder e Nathan Shedd che hanno da poco completato delle tesi di dottorato rispettivamente su battesimo e purità rituale (https://place.asburyseminary.edu/ecommonsatsdissertations/1429/ ) e sulla decapitazione del Battista (https://research.stmarys.ac.uk/id/eprint/3503/ )
Poi non so... c'è Jaroslav Rindoš che qualche anno fa ha pubblicato un buona monografia sul Battista ed Elia in Luca: http://www.slavu.sav.sk/en/en_rindos.php